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Two Stories of Plans to Dispense Medical Marijuana

All over California, the issue of medical marijuana dispensaries have grabbed headlines.  California voters had earlier said yes to legalization of medical marijuana, but the question remains - how to obtain it? In the Eastern Sierra, Mammoth officials have met to hammer out a process for dispensaries and in Inyo, one man says he will go back to the Inyo Supervisors with his plan for an outlet.

Brett Birmingham of Big Pine had drawn attention when he published a doing business as statement with the name
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Brett Birmingham, Big Pine
Marijuana Café.  Birmingham already operates a video store and sporting good store on Big Pine's main street. He plans to go back to the Inyo Supervisors to press his plans.

Birmingham has set aside a separate space for his marijuana dispensary in the back of his current businesses.  He said he had received a letter form Planning Director Mike Conklin  that explains that sale of medical marijuana would amount to a violation of the County's Zoning Ordinance.  The letter says that if he proceeds with the sale of medicinal marijuana at his place of business in Big Pine, "this matter will be forwarded to the District Attorney's office for further action."

Meanwhile, in Mammoth Lakes, Steve Klassen, who had gone public at a Town Council meeting as a user of medicinal marijuana, has since then met with Police Chief Randy Schienle, Lt. Jim Short, Planning Commissioner Tony Barrett and Nancy Mahannah of the Health Department to discuss possibilities.  Klassen said he plans to open a co-operative to dispense medical marijuana. 

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Steve Klassen, Mammoth Lakes
Klassen said that next week he and the police chief will make a presentation to the Town Council that they are working together.  Klassen said he believes the issue will go to the Mammoth Planning Commission for work on an ordinance.  Klassen, who has used medicinal marijuana since 1996, said he thinks it is best not to ban marijuana dispensaries.  "That's not the compassionate choice," he said.  Klassen said that he and town officials have set a deadline for a new ordinance at May 31st.  He said that Mammoth officials have shown a desire to work together.

Klassen referred to material from Attorney General Jerry Brown who explained the voter approval of medicinal marijuana.  The Attorney General spoke of cooperatives but also the need to form a business to dispense marijuana.
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written by Wayne Deja , December 07, 2009
If Mr.Birmingham is planning on opening a "marijuana cafe" in the town of Big Pine,on main street,if that happens,give it a week before his "business"is broken into,and all his"merchandise" is gone.
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written by Mark , December 07, 2009
Medical patients require a source to obtain their medicine that was recommended by a medical doctor. Strong opposition still exists from those who do not understand or care but they are only slowing down progress and probably believe that planet earth is flat!
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written by Founding Fathers , December 07, 2009
I just don't understand it, the people of California voted to have marijuana be used and dispensed for medical purposes. However political figures have banned it and/or fought against it. How can we the people criticize other countries for not having the freedom of choice when our own political leaders suppress the very essence of freedom. Just maybe we no longer are a free country anymore.

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written by Mark , December 08, 2009
That is what alarms, video cameras, and insurance is for.
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written by TFallon , December 08, 2009
give it a week before his "business"is broken into,and all his"merchandise" is gone


Yea, like this will be the first business that's ever stocked anything of value. Thanks for enlightening us, Wayne.
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written by Wayne Deja , December 09, 2009
When voters decided to allow for medical marijuana,not all, but many of the voters felt if it would possibly help out those that would benefit from its use,and possibly improve a medical condition,why not allow it,if it were governed properly by the state.But that is not how it turned out for the most part.I DO KNOW of more than a couple people that have their med.marijuana cards..and they are in better health than I am.It was not intended to make it easy for those that choose to spend their days and nites stoned, and not worry about problems from law enforcement if they happen to get pulled over and be in possession of drugs.It was not intended to make it easier for those who choose to deal drugs,and have a trump card in court if they are caught doing so.The way it seems to me,and others,that are honest about it,those with med.marijuana cards rarely,if ever,purchase from these "legal"dispensaries,having the card is used to allow possession,and in a lot of cases ,allow distribution,with little,or no fear of legal ramifications for doing so.For the people that have these cards,and have a condition that warrants the use of marijuana to improve true medical problems they have,it is a shame they have to be grouped into the majority of those who have the cards and don't really need them.
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written by David Shadle , December 09, 2009
The people of California have spoken...medical marijuana is legal in the State....Mike Conklin and the Inyo County Board of Supervisors are breaking the law by creating a zoning ordinance against dispensaries.
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written by Let the voters speak , December 09, 2009
Hey folks, California voters spoke to allow medicinal marijuana. If there is a need for herbal remedies, instead of phramaceutical drugs, let the individual have this choice. Hell, there are folks out there who choose methadone and other strong painkillers, and then there are folks who don't choose to damage their livers and kidneys. Lets not demonize what we haven't experienced. Besides folks can choose their dosages and don't have to be "stoned", to receive the benefits of legal drugs. Thank You.
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written by TFallon , December 10, 2009
OK, we get it Wayne: you don't like stoners, and feel that they should be punished for smoking weed. Seems more than a bit judgmental, but I guess that's just part of your own preconceived prejudices against certain people in society you don't care for.

But your rant above (though difficult to follow sometimes due to its lazy punctuation and rambling style) could just as easily be applied to prescription painkillers, like Vicodin and Oxycodone, which are abused regularly by those who just want to get high. But unlike marijuana, these drugs can kill, and often do. I don't hear you ranting about the local doctors and pharmacists dealing these deadly substances, so why all the rage against a dried plant that is relatively harmless, and certainly not lethal?

The laws against marijuana were put on the books by people like you, Wayne. People who simply didn't care for the crowd that smoked the weed. Whether it was the black jazz musicians, the esoteric poets, or the liberal hippies, or all of "them", the laws against marijuana were part of a larger war against certain lifestyles -- institutionalized discrimination at its worst. The people of California, and a growing number of other states, have seen the light and are repealing these laws, making the weed available to those who choose to medicate safely, their own way. I would suggest you get used to it.
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written by kevin , December 10, 2009
Why can we not have strip clubs wherever we want, and open beverage containers? Those are also within our rights. It’s the locals personal choice if they want those things in their area. If Inyo county residents don't want it in their backyard, then go somewhere else. Whatever side you are on with legality of marijuana, no one can argue the fraud that is medical marijuana. 90% of the people that have cards got it for "knee problems" "sleep problems" and so forth. And most people I know sell most of their medical marijuana, they smoke stuff off the street that is cheaper anyways. I think medical marijuana should go away due to the mass abuse of the system, and the inability to regulate it. The population as a whole has ruined a good thing for the few who require it. This may be why Inyo county doesn't want it. Instead of just complaining, why don't people look at the reasons the residents don't want it, and try to come up with solutions. And technically, the US government has said it is illegal, so residents are well within their rights to keep it out of their county, no matter what the state says. At a federal level, the government can use the same argument against the state of California as you are using against Inyo county.
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written by TFallon , December 10, 2009
It’s the locals personal choice if they want those things in their area.


From what I've heard, the locals don't have a problem with this. Planning Director Mike Conklin is the obstacle here, citing a zoning conflict, which I doubt has any relevance. And if it were the locals "personal choice" to deprive the sick from a variety of other medications, would that be applicable as well? Absolutely not.

90% of the people that have cards got it for "knee problems" "sleep problems" and so forth.


Care to explain why either of these problems are so trivial? Why shouldn't someone have the choice to medicate the way they please, in a safe, effective manner? And what about those with severe chronic pain, or those suffering from the ill effects of chemotherapy? Should they suffer just because you think a few people are abusing the system?

I think medical marijuana should go away due to the mass abuse of the system, and the inability to regulate it.


It actually doesn't matter what you think. In this state and other, the people have voted for this to be allowed. You live in a democracy, Kevin, whether you like it or not.

And technically, the US government has said it is illegal, so residents are well within their rights to keep it out of their county, no matter what the state says.


Really? Care to cite this with some authority? No? That's because you have a fundamental lack of understanding of how Federal, State, and local government operates. In addition, the current administration has ceased to challenge state law regarding this matter, making yours a moot point.

And why do I have the feeling that you're one of these anti-Fed, pro-state rights conservatives who just conveniently chooses to flip-flop when it serves your argument?
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written by Wayne Deja , December 10, 2009
TFallon...Please excuse my lazy punctuation and rambling style,but when you state locals do not have a problem with marijuana cafes trying to spring up in Inyo County,lets ask what the school teachers think of the idea...lets ask law enforcement officers,child welfare,and then we can go broader,and ask the American Cancer Society,and the people that have lost loved ones due to those that chose to drive under the influence and caused accidents on the streets.And PLEASE don't try to say anyone can operate a motor vehicle safely while they are spun-out on pot.Kevin added some good insights with his post there..."knee problems" and "sleep problems"..kevin,let's not forget "anger issues",and "anxiety disorders"too.Those also seem to be used as common excuses.I guess meaning they get angry and anxious when they can't get their product quick enough..or if a "marijuana cafe"closes early for the holidays..
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written by Mark , December 10, 2009
What is the difference between narcotic pills dispensed by doctors & pharmacies, and marijuana?

Thats what I say, whats the difference!

Most likely the old fogies that oppose marijuana in every way, even though some of them use it, they seem to have a never ending supply of goodies from their favorite doctor and local pharmacy!




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written by Bronze , December 10, 2009
Wayne,

It appears as though you have never walked into a Cancer Hospital or even known a Cancer patient. Marinol is a synthetic drug that does not work as effectively as Cannabis. Ask a Patient or Doctor, even ask the ACS. I have known folks from all walks of life who have used Marijuana to relieve pain and suffering from debilitating diseases.

As for asking Law Enforcement, ok. During my career I never once saw a DUI or Vehicle Fatality related to Marijuana alone. In my Professional opinion I believe that Marijuana stats are "padded", meaning they throw Marijuana in there because it appears in the drug test, not because it was a cause of these types of accidents. Many Traffic officers I knew loved to get Marijuana in a urine test as evidence for DUI. This threw me because Marijuana can stay in the system for up to a month. What does a positive urine test for Marijuana used a week ago have to do with a DUI from today? I will let you figure that one out.

I never saw a person, under the influence of Marijuana alone, who was impaired by the drug enough to arrest for DUI or public intoxication. I am not saying it is impossible, just that it is an extreme rarity. I never once had to arrest a Marijuana smoker for coming out of a bar and getting into a drug influenced fight(i.e. MLPD).

Marijuana has been typecast by society as an evil drug. It is propaganda from your time and place. Hopefully my Generation can change that point of view. The people of California have spoken and Inyo and Mono Counties will listen to their voice. The Nimby's seem to be in power, but it is always nice to see them get theirs.

By the way Wayne, you need to loosen up. If you can't figure out how to do it on your own maybe you need to smoke a joint!

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written by Wayne Deja , December 11, 2009
Bronze....Your first comment,I agree with that part...Cancer patients,and others, with debilitating diseases,THAT is what med.marijuana was intended for...not what it turned out to be.As for the rest of what you had to say,sounds like you are a former law enforcement officer.Maybe I am wrong,but when someone decides to party with weed,does it not usually also involve some type of alcohol too?I personally know a person I used to work with that got a DUI based solely on under the influence of marijuana.Had a good job,with a future,was under the age of 21,lost his license to drive for a year,and in turn,lost his job,since it involved operating a motor vehicle,now living back at home,mooching off relatives.If you indeed are a former law enforcement officer,do you really think,with the marijuana out there now,with such a high level of THC,it does not impair one's ability to drive?And make a quick decision,if faced with a possible collision,even if it is the fault of another? As far as myself,if I want to "loosen up",it can't be by smoking a joint..at my age,all it would do is make me act all stupid,lazy,and paranoid about everything.
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written by bronze , December 11, 2009
Wayne,

I disagree with the notion of high THC. THC actually tends to lead to a clearer "high". Marijuana high in CBD content tends to lead towards a more drowsy and narcotic like effect. People also tend to use less of higher potency weed to get the same desired effects.

To be honest, I just wish that people would talk to a Cannabis user and be open to what they have to say. You speak of how Cannabis and Alcohol go hand and hand. This is not true. Many users of Cannabis don't drink and oppose alcohol use. Many "stoners" don't like drinking because they like to stay in control of themselves. Believe it or not when you smoke Cannabis it is not like you are drunk. Many Sativa types of Cannabis are much like having a cup of coffee. They allow you to have clear thought while having the Herb in your system. These are the types of Marijuana that help those depressed, they actually motivate people to get out and do good in their lives. Indicas produce more of a narcotic affect and are used effectively against pain. I suppose I could write for hours about this stuff. I suppose I could talk to you for hours about it, but would you be willing to listen?

I hear your argument of it being abused and used by those that just want to get high. Maybe it is society's reaction to outdated laws and intolerance by Generations past. Marijuana has been used throughout history and for good reason. It just took the US Government, special interest groups (Big Tobacco, Alcohol Corps.), and Politicians trying to make a name, to cast a very negative light on it. People talk of it being a gateway drug, look at Alcohol and Cigarettes first for that one.

I guess what I am trying to say is that Marijuana is not as bad as people think!

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written by pharmaceuticals kill , December 13, 2009
A majority of pharmaceuticals contain more harmful substances than tars. Just taking less of these deadly pills is reason enough to supplement them with cannabis. You dont have to be presently dying.
Unless you consider your risk of GI bleeds, stroke, heart attack, and
acute coronary failure from taking these pills a risk? Then continue killing yourself with Celebrex, Vioxx, Quionine Anibiotics and other deadly pharmaceuticals from the richest pushers in the world. Dont belive me just "ask your local doctor about it". Thats what they tell you to do for pills on TV. Tell your doctor you need this pill. When your doc should be telling you if you need that pill or not.

Whoever thought they were brave enough to compare DUI's of cannabis to alcohol. Please educate yourself and realize that more fatal accidents with illicit substances involved are due to alcohol, pharmaceuticals, and hard controlled substance (ie. Methamphetamine-Heroin), than ever have been involved with cannabis. Drunk drivers, cell phones ,pharmaceuticals and smoking ciggerates kill more people on the road every DAY. All these things I mentioned are the real problems with this argument. Ignorant people pump poison into their systems and ridicule a plant.
As for dispensaries, They should have to comply with
record searches to make sure the only profit they reap is to cover expenses and pay their Non-Profit wages to people who have done work.
Yes NPO's employees are paid. You think that World Wildlife Federation telephone operators that take your donation don't get paid for answering the phone,WRONG! You think the person that helps you at the Goodwill or the Salvation Army Isn't paid, WRONG!
On a final note, the major problem with dispensaries is the redistribution of the cannabis after it leaves the dispensary to non recommendation holders. This is why dispensaries are shut down in cities. I personally know of people who as it's said "Sling" or distribute their personal RX Medications for money. Most of them do what with the money? Buy Meth! I dont know anybody who distributes cannabis for this purpose. Continue the demonization process!
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written by Heavyrunner , December 13, 2009
The recommendation can come from a storefront office with a doctor who specializes in medical marijuana recommendations. "Doctor I am depressed because I can't get any weed." This is reason enough to get a recommendation. So pot has been defacto legalized. L.A. has over 1,000 dispensaries right now. The introduction of widely available marijuana has been accompanied by a sharp drop in violent crime in the L.A. basin.

That may just be a coincidence, but the widespread availability of legal marijuana has not been accompanied by the crime wave we have been told would happen. Certainly nothing has happened that would justify the imprisonment and felony branding of our youth as has been happening for generations.

Those misconceptions about marijuana were popularized by advertising by the alcohol industry in the 1930s after prohibition was overturned because they did not want the competition for recreational use that marijuana represented.
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written by Aza , December 13, 2009
Wow!! Do I have an opinion about this one!! Wayne, my father is a veteran and is also diagnosed with PTSD, and he is also a holder of the medical marijuana license. As for your statement that marijuana goes hand in hand with alcohol, BULL!! My dad has had maybe 2 drinks in 28 years. I know a lot of "stoners", and mostly do not do both at the same time. If you knew the effects of marijuana, you would understand why. It does not get you "spun out", that is meth. It slows you down, and also helps a lot of people to deal with pain. Same as vicodin, codiene, oxycodone. ETC!! Do you see people trying to make alcohol illegal?? That is the most commonly accepted drug, and also the most dangerous. You see more alcohol poisonings than you do overdoses. Ever heard of an overdose of marijuana?? As for the driving under the influence, the cops, as bronze stated, exploit the fact that marijuana was in their system. Marijuana stays in your system for at least 30 days, and usually has no effect on the way people drive. I personally always drive safer and a lot more cautious while under the influence, which has nothing to do with my fear of the cops. It just comes naturally. Same as with the high you get, Its natural. From a plant, that has been grown forever, and used by our former presidents. Such as Washington. He grew the stuff!!!
Wayne, you sure are very opinionated about marijuana. You definitely need to lighten up. If you want to fight a battle about a dangerous drug, that causes violence and accidents, and spousal abuse, fights, and deaths, attack alcohol. But the fight against marijuana is going to a losing battle. More people in our community approve of legalizing marijuana and opening dispensaries in our areas. With my dad's medical problems, I would feel a lot safer if he could go to Mammoth or Big Pine to pick up HIS MEDICINE that having to drive all the way to tahoe!! I fear for him everytime he drives that way, especially now with the snow. For my dads sake, I VOTE YES!! And thankfully, I am a registered voter and will hopefully be able to help our community to approve the dispensary.
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written by FritzDaKat , February 08, 2010
Greet's all,

Just sort of curious here,

First off I'll state that personally, I'm an advocate of outright Legalization at the Federal level.
I'm 38 and I've been a smoker for many years (Not one to let unconstitutional laws stand in my way while pursuing happiness, :P ) . I really am happy to finally live somewhere that I can get a MMJ card to help me legally treat my bouts of insomnia as well as the many frequent aches and pains I suffer from as a result of working as an Industrial Maintenance Technician for over 15 years (Slinging 50HP electric motors and 20 ton press crankshafts over ones shoulder will eventually take a toll on one's joints,,,)

But onto the question foremost in my mind, Why such a need for an actual dispensary? We are after all talking about Weed here right? It will grow almost anywhere and proper care of the plant would be an easy skill to teach most people.

Why not instead of trying to force communities to allow businesses to openly market things which fly in the face of the Locals general sense of morality (However biased, misinformed or askew that might be,,,)focus more on Education of cultivation, or perhaps instead of a dispensary these same individuals could start a business in where they would provide in-house plant care to Patients, out of sight from the Children and Teens whom many seem to use as their biggest reason to continue denial of the constitutional rights of the citizens of it's community. It would also probably be beneficial to the entrepreneurs to do this rather than to grow however many plants they would need to serve their client base in the event that the Feds decided to have a change of heart and crack down suddenly on Grow-Op's. And of course it would seem to mostly meet the needs & desires of all parties involved.

Just my thoughts on the matter
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written by BFG , February 09, 2010
@Fritz, Even though most patients have the physical capacity to grow their own plants, some won't. The elderly, the terminally ill, not to mention patients who live in small apartments, or in a residence that wouldn't allow this type of cultivation.

And in Mammoth Lakes, growing outdoors is almost impossible due to the climate and short growing season.

So are the folks who cannot grow their own out of luck? This seems unfair, particularly since many of these folks are in the most serious need.

Bottom line: why create additional hardships for people in need of some relief? The negative effects of opening a well-run dispensary (or two) in the community will be few, if any. The arguments against it have come almost entirely from those that don't smoke, and have a personal vendetta against those that do. This is a matter of state law, not personal opinions. Period.
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